The next box from the brick resulted in several FTE and FTF in the first two mags with a clean gun. But at least in my case, the chamber was simply a bit tight from the factory. 32acp version of the LCP2 instead (kinda like the Kel-Tec P32). WAY more accurate than it should be at 15yds (Palm size groups for 8 rnds). The designer of the LCP was real artist, the designer of the LCPII should be fired. That’s not the issue. I was able to get groups averaging around one inch at 7 yards, and good center mass groups all the way out to 20 yards, which is honestly waaaaay farther than I’d want to stretch a .380 in this form factor in real life. KEL-TEC PMR-30 Stainless Steel Feed Ramp will correct common KEL TEC PMR 30 Problems with constant Failure to Feed Malfunctions. Little guns are just too finicky and 22 rimfire just too variable for reliability. Little form, all function. I have the same issues, from light strikes and double stacks takes all the fun I was shooting his gun. Tried Remington Golden HV but had 2 misfires per 10 rounds in a box of 100. It shoots well, the new sights are a massive improvement over the original’s, and the extra width really makes the gun easier to grip if you have a fairly large palm like I do. After that, problems got worse and worse. A lot. but definitely not a gun like an LCP that you can slip into a pocket. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. You can’t judge the ergonomics a pocket pistol like this against something like a competition G34 or 2011 that’s been tuned to be as shootable as possible. Both had occasional feeding problems that vanished after I polished the feed ramps. Custom KEL TEC PMR 30 Upgrades to correct common KEL TEC PMR 30 Problems. Overall length of the ammo is the same. The magazine designs are better and more reliable. Height: 4″ I could see throwing it into my pocket for a day hike when plinking might sound like fun. The result is an easy reach for the otherwise very small release. The LCP is still smaller than its stiffest competitor, the Glock 43 as you can see below. A lot of reviewers complain about the sights being difficult to see. the big thing the little gun has going for it is that it’s possible for almost anyone to operate this gun safely. I REALLY want these LCP II in .22 LR to be reliable. © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. It’s a smart design, focusing on finger-friendly geometry to make up for tiny controls. The SR22 is a far superior defensive gun for the elderly and arthritic. Only for those that do not shoot often and treat the gun like a target gun. I like them both, but the LCP is easier to pocket carry. I clicked on the recommended IWB Holster from Concealment Express that went to Amazon. This is billed as a safety feature. On average the Remington Thunderbolt was very consistently .2240″ along the case and extremely concentric. Both had occasional feeding problems that vanished after I polished the feed ramps. This has helped immensely!! I have some that work fine, and others that can barely fire 3 to 5 rounds reliably. I’m waiting for several months before I call them again, hoping they know how to fix the bugs when the replacement goes back. Capacity: 10+1 Unfortunately it isn’t reliable or durable. The trigger is crisp, short, and soft and the gun uses an internal, shrouded hammer, rather than a striker-fired bar, which helps make slide racking easier. No flat tip rounds in the LCP II, EVER! over 5 pulls with a Lyman digital trigger scale. This is just a little gun. Yet Browning Performance both HP and RN as well as Winchester 36 gr hp would have FTF and FTE’s in every magazine. We’ve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. Why the LCP2, I don’t know either. Reliability Problems: I have experienced reliability issues in about 30 percent of these magazines, with several 10/22 rifles. The LCP II in .22LR is not a smaller version of the LCP II in .380 ACP. The Ruger® LCP® Semi-Auto Pistol EDC Package has select everyday carry items to get you through most situations you're likely to encounter on any given day. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Magazine springs wear and tear over time, reducing the performance of your magazines and resulting in failure-to-feed issues. I really think Ruger has hit it out of the park with this one, and the insane number of units they’ve moved seems to back that up. Log on to the Ruger forums and do a search of Problems and malfunctions and you will see hundreds. Two types of Federal ammo used. So, all my fellow Southerners should understand my desire for a small, lightweight carry gun that can easily be hidden away under a t-shirt. Runs like a top on the CCI Mini Mag; other brands/sizes/FPS, not so much. The only people that should know I’m carrying are me, and my family. A much appreciated feature on the LCP II is that the slide locks back on the empty magazine. Reliability Problems: I have experienced reliability issues in about 30 percent of these magazines, with several 10/22 rifles. Now it was quite reliable and shoot fairly close to aim (I did some 100 yard shots and aiming just a bit to the left and cocking the front sight a hair I could drop them right in between the target stands! The Ruger Security-9 Compact has the same “Secure-Action” hammer-fired system that the full-size Ruger’s Security-9 pistol and their successful LCP II use. It is significantly larger yet very easy to manipulate. I purchased a Sig P238 to replace this item and have never had a problem. Works as advertised I am happy, i order a lcp ruger more the n a month ago have talked to about three sales people said they would check see what was going on call me back i said if any question please let me know you was sent email the license losie's gun shop oneonta ny13820. The original, first-gen Ruger LCP debuted at the 2008 SHOT Show and very quickly became one of Ruger’s most popular pistols. I switched to Federal’s Target 40gr solid and the Wolf 40gr solid. The Ruger Security-9 system uses an internal, shrouded hammer, rather than a striker-fired bar, which helps make slide racking easier. There are too many issues with reliability to ignore. As far as stopping power, it’s important to remember that a .380 has about 70% of the same power as a .38 Special round fired from the same length barrel. Due to this, I sold the Ruger rifles and purchased Smith and Wesson 15-22 models. At some point if you can’t handle a small .380 you need to move up in size of the gun, not down in caliber. Naturally, the new Ruger’s Security-9 holds . Target sights these are not. Matthew Collins is a writer, editor, competitive shooter, hobby-level gunsmith and general firearms enthusiast. Ammo shoot 40 grain above 1200 FPS! It’s pretty smooth, I like the lines, but…something about the grip bugs me. I’d recommend holding one before you buy though, as the way a gun like this fits your hand is going to be one of the most important considerations. The Ruger LCP didn’t make the first .380 ACP pocket pistol. Never had an LCP II as I didnt like the way they looked or see a need. Though they’ve been out of production for 30 years, Ruger’s “Security-Six” remains a legendary model, named for its six-round capacity (much like Ruger’s Single-Ten holds 10 rounds). I have the original LCP which I've carried for years concealed openly with a Sneaky Pete holster.. And I shoot them more accurately than any of my Glocks to include the 43! Altogether, I’d say this gun, if adequately maintained, will go bang when you need it to. The one and only thing that a .22 LCP has going for it is as a point and shoot trainer for the centerfire LCP’s. The slide contact issue certainly makes sense. It’s a nice little pistol and seems to fill the same niche as the LCP II in .22LR. The new semi-automatic double-action-only pistol holds 15+1 rounds of 9mm. I field stripped and cleaned and lubed the gun again, and experienced the same issues shooting CCI Mini Mags and CCI Standard Velocity, at about the 100 round mark. I’ll leave it to JWT to tell that story, as he got it straight from the horse’s mouth. Anyway, sounds likenyou're just parroting and have no idea what you're talking about. those rounds are working well. If you are an adult with size large hands, a thumbs-forward grip may not work for you. Yes, there’s always something to be said for firing a bullet with more meat to it. Fortunately, most modern firearms with a defensive focus. It fits in the pocket of my shorts which is great for Florida weather. Ruger’s Security-9 pistol uses the same dependable “Secure Action” system as Ruger’s successful LCP II with its crisp, short, and soft trigger. This is one area where the .380 shines over a similarly sized 9mm. I purchased a .380 LCP because many other officers were picking them up as backups. Much better than I though from such a small gun. The LCP 2 is the perfect form and size for it’s intended purpose, it’s also very accurate. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. I also had a call with a Ruger representative who recommended using a couple of different CCI ammunition choices, as well as to making sure that I wasn’t contacting the slide in any way during firing. Just got one… every time I fire a shot the safety comes ON!!! It also makes single handed reloads much easier. The .22LR version of this small semi-automatic pistol might not be for me…yet…but it has the potential to be useful protection for a lot of folks who have few other options. If you are going to choose to carry the firearm with a round in the chamber and ready to use, (which is the whole point of the thing), and if you aren’t going to use a rigid holster that completely protects the trigger, then a manual safety is a must on these guns. I really Wanted to like the LCP II but it was terribly unreliable. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Excellent as expected. The Ruger LCP II is built off of the initial success of the fantastic Ruger LCP with a few important improvements. Using several different ammunition types, including Aguilla, Wolf, a few different CCI loads, and Federal Premium’s Target line, I had quite a few failures to feed and failures to fire. Consistency improved. Most important, order the MCarbo recoil spring. “By the end of the next 30 rounds, I couldn’t get through a single magazine without a light primer strike.”. I really believe some of what appear as light strikes are actually due to a tight chamber where some of the rounds are hanging up enough to cause the rim not to seat entirely. I don’t so much see the LCP 22 as a defensive firearm for the inferm. I have some that work fine, and others that can barely fire 3 to 5 rounds reliably. That being said, I think the LCP II is a really good example of just how shootable a pocket pistol can be. Of course it’s not as tiny as an LCP, has a manual safety, etc. I switched again to Aguila’s 40gr lead solid and Herter’s 36gr Plated Hollow Point, but the same issues persisted. You must have a happy wife. And yes…we’ve also covered, I’m also not John Wick (though I did get to, Maybe it’s the uptick in my shooting over the past few years that’s just made me better, but I think this might actually be the, Ideally, there shouldn’t be much to say, which is the case here. The Llama s firing mechanism differs considerably in detail from the 1911. The next surprise was the reliability, but not in a good way. I’m also impressed with the number of aftermarket sight options. I don’t own a defensive handgun smaller than 9mm. All of the measurements between the two calibers are extremely close, but not exactly the same. All stainless and built like a tank . Right around 300 if you are lucky usually a bit more. But it seems the difference is the variation in concentricity over the length of the case. At that point, all of the real work begins, and you’ll find just .3″ of a steady squish until the hammer falls. From not firing at all, to not being able the shot one clip this out double stacks. But it's no fun to train with. No part of the grip is rubberized or soft, but the aggressive and almost complete texturing of all of the grip surfaces means that the pocket pistol won’t snag when being pulled from said pocket, but also locks firmly in the hand for rapid shots at close range. That being said, I’ve also left those guns in my glovebox, or even at home entirely, and gone out without a gun at all because it’s hot and I’m wearing light clothing, or because I just don’t feel like carrying a heavy gun around. Haven’t read the review yet. I wonder if they should have made a This keeps the thumb from flagging in front of the muzzle, as well as completes a very tight grip all the way around the firearm. (BTW, the caption under the first photo of the two Rugers should really be "Ruger LCP Custom and LCP II" so people less familiar with the line will know.)